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  • zeros
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 921

    #1

    Will-Is it filed somewhere?

    Is there a legal website that I can get some free advice?

    Is a will filed somewhere other than being in the possession of the testator?

    Scenario: Testator (never married) makes out a will that is in his possession He leaves out one worthless sibling. The testator passes and that particular sibling is first to discover the will. He realizes that he is not named. He destroys the will, thinking he would receive his fair share (without the will) being he is one of the survivors.

    Could this happen? How do you prevent it?
  • PIGLEE
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2005
    • 446

    #2
    You might check your county recorders office. Some people will file them, but they don't have to. Did the man us a lawyer? Although he probably would have called you in a few days of the death. Good luck.

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    • WhiteOleander
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2005
      • 1370

      #3
      If he used an attorney, the attorney more than likely will have a copy. Something similar happened to someone I know. The will had been written about 15 years prior to his death. It took the attorney awhile to locate it, but he did have a copy. This was in the 80's before everyone kept digital copies of evreything. So, there may be a good chance for your client
      You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you.

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      • ChEAr$
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2005
        • 3872

        #4
        Originally posted by zeros
        Is there a legal website that I can get some free advice?

        Is a will filed somewhere other than being in the possession of the testator?

        Scenario: Testator (never married) makes out a will that is in his possession He leaves out one worthless sibling. The testator passes and that particular sibling is first to discover the will. He realizes that he is not named. He destroys the will, thinking he would receive his fair share (without the will) being he is one of the survivors.

        Could this happen? How do you prevent it?
        Sure it can happen, and that is why a person should name an executor in his will and make sure that executor has a copy of the will AND knows where the original is located AND
        he should make sure the original is in a safe place accessible to the executor.

        However there is no requirement to file a copy of a will with the county officers prior to probate.
        ChEAr$,
        Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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        • S T
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2005
          • 5053

          #5
          Well

          Obviously, an attorney or the court will need to intervene, but you could check out your client's State Laws to see basic overview and then see how it all plays out..
          In some states, the Will needs to name "all" children of the decedent, any child should not be ignored, even if the child is only mentionned for $1 or $10, etc.
          Could be the courts will just rule under the "intestate laws" (without a will).
          Here is a link to Minnesota State Law Library http://www.lawlibrary.state.mn.us/forms.html, then it appears you can click on the Wills and Probate (I posted this link as that is what you have on your profile)

          Sandy
          Last edited by S T; 07-17-2010, 05:34 PM. Reason: Add link

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          • ChEAr$
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2005
            • 3872

            #6
            OP said it was a sibling (meaning brother or sister) who discovered the will and his/her omission.
            It might not matter, since in the absence of a will, children get first dibs.
            ChEAr$,
            Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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            • S T
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2005
              • 5053

              #7
              Harlan

              You are right, I processed in my brain a child -
              Therefore, the brother, sister, etc, just might not matter,
              still if NO Will can be produced it will probably be probated as "intestate"

              Sandy

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              • zeros
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2006
                • 921

                #8
                Never married

                Originally posted by ChEAr$
                OP said it was a sibling (meaning brother or sister) who discovered the will and his/her omission.
                It might not matter, since in the absence of a will, children get first dibs.
                In the OP it stated that he was never married, therefore, no children.

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                • S T
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 5053

                  #9
                  Humor of sorts

                  Just because he was never married, doesn't mean he doesn't have children

                  Sandy

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                  • ChEAr$
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 3872

                    #10
                    Originally posted by S T
                    Just because he was never married, doesn't mean he doesn't have children

                    Sandy
                    Quite so. There are bastards in every state of the Union.
                    ChEAr$,
                    Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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                    • gkaiseril
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 567

                      #11
                      The wills will be coming out of the walls. So the courts will need to determine what the latest will is and if it is valid. Also there could be a codicil not recorded lurking somewhere.

                      And this is why it is best to use an attorney to prepare a will to make sure the wording clearly establishes the date of the will, state of mind of the client, and instructions for the client if the will needs to be revised.

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                      • JohnH
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 5339

                        #12
                        One way to learn a person's true character is to share an inheritance with them.
                        "The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectful" - John Kenneth Galbraith

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                        • Davc
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 1088

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ChEAr$
                          Quite so. There are bastards in every state of the Union.
                          And the District of Columbia.

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                          • Bees Knees
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2005
                            • 5456

                            #14
                            I am named executor in a will for a non-relative friend who wants to leave two daughters off her will, give 25% to her son, and 75% to charity. I have a copy of the will along with the attorney who drew it up. I told her that if her daughters get into her house and gain control of her assets before her son, there really is nothing I can do. I’m not going to call the police to enforce the will. Neither am I going to spend a dime going to court contesting whatever the daughters try to do with her estate. Thus, in my opinion, the will is worthless unless her son gains control of her assets before her daughters, and that son cooperates with me in executing the will. Without his consent and support, I as the executor am not going to fight her daughters if they choose to ignore the will.

                            It may be a different story if I were an attorney and had my fees pre-paid along with money set aside to go to court and fight a contested estate.

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                            • ChEAr$
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 3872

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Bees Knees
                              I am named executor in a will for a non-relative friend who wants to leave two daughters off her will, give 25% to her son, and 75% to charity. I have a copy of the will along with the attorney who drew it up. I told her that if her daughters get into her house and gain control of her assets before her son, there really is nothing I can do. I’m not going to call the police to enforce the will. Neither am I going to spend a dime going to court contesting whatever the daughters try to do with her estate. Thus, in my opinion, the will is worthless unless her son gains control of her assets before her daughters, and that son cooperates with me in executing the will. Without his consent and support, I as the executor am not going to fight her daughters if they choose to ignore the will.

                              It may be a different story if I were an attorney and had my fees pre-paid along with money set aside to go to court and fight a contested estate.
                              The very best thing to do in a case like this is have the original of the will deposited in care of the attorney. Most attorneys will accommodate.
                              ChEAr$,
                              Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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