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    #16
    Sure, there's been lots of DISCUSSION about it, but never any action. If you're a bank, then practies that will get a loan shark hauled off to court are common & accepted practice.

    Here's another little goodie in that regard. Take a look at your bank transactions online and you'll notice an odd little phenomenon. Let's say you hit the ATM for $50 at 10 am, then write a check for $20 at the post office at noon, use your debit card to pay $30 to your florist for your spouse's birthday, and write another check at your local bar for $300 at 4 pm. If everybody deposits their checks at the bank before closing time, an odd thing will happen - time wil be suspended. The $300 check will clear your account first, followed by the $50 ATM withdrawal, then the $30 debit card transaction to the florist, and finally the $20 check to the post office.

    The bank racks them up & clears them in order of AMOUNT so that if you happen to overdraw the account & exceed your overdraft protection, the smaller checks will hit the account last, racking up the largest number of overdrafts (and fees). If the bank is quizzed about this strange policy, they will try to explain that they program their computers to do this as a "customer service", since presumably the bigger checks are more imortant and they want to save you the embarrasment of explaning the overdraft to somebody important (maybe another bank ?). Most big banks handle things this way, so this matter of processing transactions isn't an uncommon occurrence these days.

    Heres a further discussion about your pet peeve, written by someone much more knowledgeable that I. Although I question the conclusion that any meaningful help is actually on the way. (As I said, lots of discussion by the politicians & regulators, but no real action.)
    Last edited by JohnH; 11-19-2009, 07:05 AM.
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      #17
      Thanks for the read.

      Originally posted by JohnH View Post
      Heres a further discussion about your pet peeve, written by someone much more knowledgeable that I. Although I question the conclusion that any meaningful help is actually on the way. (As I said, lots of discussion by the politicians & regulators, but no real action.)
      http://redtape.msnbc.com/2007/06/bank_overdraft_.html
      Interesting article but, as you said, no action apparently since he wrote it in 2007 and fees still exist. They're usually just an occasional bother but I once had a client who routinely paid $300-$400 per month (said he considered it "just another operating loan"). I know some will say "just manage your checking account and there's no problem," but I think that's missing the point -- banks shouldn't possess a license to steal when people/dopes aren't always careful (the bank gouged me once this year, so I'm takin' this personally).

      I was surprised about the processing sequence of checks by amount -- hadn't heard of that one. Very resourceful fellows, those bankers, eh? I did hear of some banks who processed all checks first and then all deposits last.

      American Bankers Association spokesperson Nedda Feddis' OD fee defenses were quite original and creative -- to wit:

      "ATM screen overdraft warnings are not technically possible" (Gosh -- sounds like a huge technological challenge, doesn't it?)

      "Publishing (interest) rates would only confuse people. People understand dollars. The rate would be misleading to consumers. It's not a loan, it's a service fee." (Yes, yes, I've got it-- it's a fee and those 1,000% interest rates are soooo confusing; why, it's just more than our li'l ol' brains can figure out).

      Our ex-payday loan guys should have hired that gal.

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