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  • JON
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2005
    • 1265

    #1

    Reverse mortgage-

    when does the interest become deductible?
  • Lion
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2005
    • 4698

    #2
    When Paid

    When it's actually paid. But, I'm no expert. Had one client look into it, but none have a reverse mortgage so haven't dealt with the practicalities of reporting.

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    • MLINDER42
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2008
      • 277

      #3
      Reverse Mortgage

      The interest is not paid till the mortgage is paid off by the sale of the property or the estate pays it off.Thefore no yearly deduction.

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      • abctax
        Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 95

        #4
        which is usually after death, when the mortgage gets paid off...

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        • Roland Slugg
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2006
          • 1860

          #5
          As others have correctly said, the interest is deductible when it's paid. This usually takes place after the borrower does one of the following: (1) dies, (2) sells the house, or (3) moves out of the house. However, a borrower may, if he wishes to do so, pay all or part of the accumulated interest at any time prior to one of those three "mandatory" events, and if he does, the interest paid is deductible in that year.

          There are several legitimate tax planning and economic reasons why a borrower may decide to do this, and a good tax advisor should be alert to situations when it would be in a client's best interest to consider such a maneuver.
          Roland Slugg
          "I do what I can."

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          • New York Enrolled Agent
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2006
            • 1530

            #6
            Much of what is posted is confirmed by Rev Ruling 80-248

            HOLDINGS
            The interest is includible in the lender's gross income when it is actually or constructively received by the lender and is deductible by the borrower when it is actually paid by the borrower. Actual or constructive receipt or payment does not occur when the interest is added to the outstanding loan balance. Therefore, the interest is neither includible in the lender's gross income nor deductible by the borrower at that time.

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            • clr
              Member
              • Dec 2007
              • 45

              #7
              I have a reverse mortgage

              I pay all of the interest accumulated during the year and the mortgage company sends me a 1098. The interest at present is 2.00%.

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              • dsi
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2005
                • 705

                #8
                How can it be a reverse mortgage if YOU are paying the interest?
                Dave, EA

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                • OtisMozzetti
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 530

                  #9
                  Here's how it seems it could be...

                  Originally posted by dsi
                  How can it be a reverse mortgage if YOU are paying the interest?
                  Here's my explanation of how it seems it must be: each (month?) the reverse mortgage borrower gets a check from the mortgage issuer. That check represents principal amount outstanding, and there is also interest added to the balance due. This particular borrower PAYS the interest that is added (with part of the check received, or with other funds).

                  I guess you could call it a home equity loan where the amount outstanding increases each time a check is issued. It would appear not to be acquisition debt.

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                  • clr
                    Member
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 45

                    #10
                    Here is how it works

                    Originally posted by dsi
                    How can it be a reverse mortgage if YOU are paying the interest?
                    I made a reverse mortgage, it is a credit line for me to cash in at any time.

                    I get a statement every month. On this statement it tells me what I owe, what are the charges for the month, and how much more is available to me.

                    I can pay it OR not pay it and let my estate pay it when I'm gone.

                    If I choose to pay anything on it during the year I am paying interest.

                    This is available to people over 62 years of age.

                    Why leave it to the kids???????????????

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                    • dsi
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 705

                      #11
                      clr, I still don't understand. What financial institution are you dealing with? I would like to read about their "reverse mortgage" program. It sounds so very different than what I've seen over the years.
                      Dave, EA

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                      • clr
                        Member
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 45

                        #12
                        dsi

                        Originally posted by dsi
                        clr, I still don't understand. What financial institution are you dealing with? I would like to read about their "reverse mortgage" program. It sounds so very different than what I've seen over the years.
                        All reverse mortgages are the same from any mortgage company. If you want to pay it back
                        you can If you do not want to pay it back your estate will.

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                        • OtisMozzetti
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 530

                          #13
                          home equity loan

                          Originally posted by clr

                          I get a statement every month. On this statement it tells me what I owe, what are the charges for the month, and how much more is available to me.

                          I can pay it OR not pay it and let my estate pay it when I'm gone.

                          If I choose to pay anything on it during the year I am paying interest.
                          It sounds to me like the classic definition of a home equity line of credit. There is a limit on the amount of home equity interest that can be an itemized deduction on Schedule A, and the home equity interest counts against the taxpayer for purposes of the alt. min. tax.

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