Carryover losses used by estate

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  • dianne
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 2

    #1

    Carryover losses used by estate

    taxpayer died july 1, 2009 with $70,000 of long-term loss carryforward from 2008. Taxpayer had annuity in living trust. taxpayer's beneficiaries sold stock for a loss after taxpayers death. gain on annuity is $100,000. Is there any way to use the carryforward loss and/or the current 2009 loss against the gain on the annuity?
  • Bees Knees
    Senior Member
    • May 2005
    • 5456

    #2
    TTB page 6-9 says:

    Death of taxpayer. Capital losses cannot be carried over after a
    taxpayer’s death. They are deductible only on the final income tax
    return filed on the decedent’s behalf. The annual $3,000 ($1,500
    MFS) limit still applies in this situation. Even if the loss is greater
    than the limit, the decedent’s estate cannot deduct the difference
    or carry it over to following years.
    Sorry, those are the rules.

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    • Corduroy Frog
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 601

      #3
      What About the Annuity?

      The annuity is also IRD stuff.

      The character of the income would determine whether the 70K in losses could offset the 100K in income.

      Most annuity income is reported as "retirement" income. If this is the case, the answer is "No, only $3000 can be used to offset."

      Is there any way to convert annuity income into capital gains?

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      • Burke
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 7068

        #4
        Originally posted by Corduroy Frog
        The annuity is also IRD stuff. Is there any way to convert annuity income into capital gains?
        No. Sorry.

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