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  • BHoffman
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 1768

    #1

    Waitress W2

    I think I can't find the answer because the question is so basic.

    I have here a W2 from a gal who worked for a Pizza Inc. She was a tipped employee.

    Box 1... 10,000 Wages, tips
    Box 2....... 900 FWH
    Box 3..... 7,000 SS wages
    Box 4........ 434 SS WH
    Box 5.... 10,000 Med wages
    Box 6........ 145 Med WH
    Box 7...... 3,000 SS Tips

    There are no amounts in box 12

    Seems like Client should pay SS tax on the amount in Box 7, but I don't know where to put it. Can some kind and patient person help me out with this? I admit this is my first tipped client. This has to be so simple.

    Thank you very much.
    Last edited by BHoffman; 02-08-2009, 01:10 PM.
  • snowshine
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 122

    #2
    form 4137 should do the trick, although her tips are reported. That's a weird amount of SS to withhold -- it is the correct amount for neither box 1 nor box 7. Box 7 wages are normally in box 3 and 5 too... Something tells me the bookkeeping firm needs help

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    • BHoffman
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2008
      • 1768

      #3
      Thanks for responding.

      I think the SS WH is correct for the amount shown in box 5: 7000 x .062 = 434

      Form 4137 doesn't seem like the right way to go.

      Still looking for an answer.

      I experimented and put the $3000 in box 12 (a). This gets what I think should be the correct tax onto the return. However, there is no amount listed in box 12 on the W2.

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      • Jesse
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2005
        • 2064

        #4
        Maybe check with the employer to see if there is an error on the W-2 or possibly the employer has not been withholding the correct amount?
        http://www.viagrabelgiquefr.com/

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        • BHoffman
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2008
          • 1768

          #5
          Thanks Jesse. I think the only problem with the W2 is that no amount is shown in box 12 code A. But I'm not sure.

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          • erchess
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 3513

            #6
            Be Careful

            about keying in a W2 differently from what the paper form says. You can get in a lot of trouble that way.

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            • ChEAr$
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2005
              • 3872

              #7
              IF you have good software

              simply keying in the appropriate W2 information will automatically generate the form
              4137 which is needed since employer did not withhold appropriate social security or
              medicare tax.
              ChEAr$,
              Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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              • BOB W
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2005
                • 4061

                #8
                Originally posted by BHoffman
                I think I can't find the answer because the question is so basic.

                I have here a W2 from a gal who worked for a Pizza Inc. She was a tipped employee.

                Box 1... 10,000 Wages, tips
                Box 2....... 900 FWH
                Box 3..... 7,000 SS wages
                Box 4........ 434 SS WH
                Box 5.... 10,000 Med wages
                Box 6........ 145 Med WH
                Box 7...... 3,000 SS Tips

                There are no amounts in box 12

                Seems like Client should pay SS tax on the amount in Box 7, but I don't know where to put it. Can some kind and patient person help me out with this? I admit this is my first tipped client. This has to be so simple.

                Thank you very much.
                Look again at box 4 on the w-2 and compare it with your computer screen for box 4. Screen must match W-2. W-2 probably says $620. If so, put $620 in computer for box 4.
                This post is for discussion purposes only and should be verified with other sources before actual use.

                Many times I post additional info on the post, Click on "message board" for updated content.

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                • ChEAr$
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 3872

                  #9
                  The business is

                  Originally posted by BOB W
                  Look again at box 4 on the w-2 and compare it with your computer screen for box 4. Screen must match W-2. W-2 probably says $620. If so, put $620 in computer for box 4.
                  a pizza shop, a business which usually doesn't bother with such niceties as proper tip
                  reporting.

                  I'm betting at year's end the W2 preparer asked for the information so that the W2
                  could be properly prepared.
                  ChEAr$,
                  Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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                  • BOB W
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 4061

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ChEAr$
                    a pizza shop, a business which usually doesn't bother with such niceties as proper tip
                    reporting.

                    I'm betting at year's end the W2 preparer asked for the information so that the W2
                    could be properly prepared.

                    The W-2 was completed wrong and the additional $186 needs to be paid by the taxpayer or have the employer correct the W-2.
                    This post is for discussion purposes only and should be verified with other sources before actual use.

                    Many times I post additional info on the post, Click on "message board" for updated content.

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                    • WhiteOleander
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 1370

                      #11
                      Box 7: Social Security tips. Box 7 reports the amount of tip income that you reported to your employer. If you did not report tips to your employer, you will not have an amount in this box. The amounts in Box 7 and Box 3 should add up to the amount in Box 1, or the $90,000 maximum wage limit for Social Security taxes.

                      Box 7 shows the amount of tips reported by employees. In many situations, the cash wages paid are insufficient to collect the entire amount of social security and Medicare tax. Reported tips must still be shown in this box, even if social security or Medicare tax was not withheld on them. For 2008, the combined total of Boxes 3 and 7 cannot exceed $102,000. The reported tips should be included with amounts reported in Box 1, wages, tips, other compensation and Box 5, Medicare wages and tips. Since social security benefits are based on the amount of social security tips reported to the Social Security Administration (SSA), it is important that employees periodically review their social security earnings record and provide the SSA with the Form W-2 to update any incorrectly posted earnings records


                      I found these paragraphs from differnts sites when I googled.

                      This is from the general instructions for W-2, W-3's on the IRS site.

                      Box 7—Social security tips. Show the tips that the employee reported to you even if you did not have enough employee funds to collect the social security tax for the tips. The total of boxes 3 and 7 should not be more than $102,000 (the maximum social security wage base for 2008). Report all tips in box 1 along with wages and other compensation. Include any tips reported in box 7 in box 5 also.
                      Last edited by WhiteOleander; 02-08-2009, 08:06 PM.
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                      • BHoffman
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 1768

                        #12
                        I checked my data entry and it is correct. Still wondering what to do. Thanks for posts.

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                        • JG EA
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 2176

                          #13
                          I don't think you have to do anything except report the SS and Med as shown on the W-2. If too much was reported the employee should ask for a refund because too much was taken from their check. If too little was taken from their net check then the employer accidentally paid too much when filing 941's or the like. The employee has nothing to pay to the IRS, it has been paid already.
                          JG

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                          • Gene V
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 1057

                            #14
                            I hate to say this, but I’ve been getting W2’s like this for years, never anything in box 12, I just been entering numbers as they appear on the W2-client has never paid any additional tax. I don’t do payroll—so don’t know if this is proper reporting.

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                            • BHoffman
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 1768

                              #15
                              I think you are correct. However, I'm wondering if this is the result of any error or not. I don't think so. I think the employee reported tips to the employer, and the actual paid wage amount was insufficient to cover the SS withholding.

                              I figured this was some easy and common thing that you all had seen a million times!

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