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    Foreign Partners and k-1 loss

    I am filing 2013 partnership return (form1065) with 4 limited partners and two of them are foreigners who have no tax ID .
    There was no income for the first year but some loss which will pass through to each partner.

    I have two questions:

    1. Does the partnership have to file any form 8804 and 8805 even there was no business? What other requirement for having a foreign partner?

    2. Can k-1 loss be carried over to future year(s) if partner(s) do not have to file their individual income tax returns? Or if they have to report it on 2012 tax return in order to claim it next year?

    Thanks.
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